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and i think what impacted us in the vp debate when paul ryan was asked about roe vs. wade, that scared women about back alley abortion. >> we can't talk about women as the unified block. you've got the white married woman that went with romney. 96% of african-americans, 76% hispanic, minority coalition and the single women that obviously the democrats did a smart play with the single women in threatening -- and i got a bunch of those direct mail pieces saying, oh, the republicans are going to take away your access to contraception, which is totally not true. >> oh, i'm sorry -- >> wait, wait, wait. >> sure. >> first of all, i want to switch to women in congress. we'll get to more how people voted in the next segment. so the republican party lost two moderate women, kay bailey hutchison and olympia snow. is the republican party going to try to lure back women like that to run for the senate in the house? >> they need to. even when i ran for office in 2010, no one was out to recruit me as a woman. no one was out to recruit me as a black woman, and they need to revamp th
and i think what impacted us in the vp debate when paul ryan was asked about roe vs. wade, that scared women about back alley abortion. >> we can't talk about women as the unified block. you've got the white married woman that went with romney. 96% of african-americans, 76% hispanic, minority coalition and the single women that obviously the democrats did a smart play with the single women in threatening -- and i got a bunch of those direct mail pieces saying, oh, the republicans are...
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ryan well paul ryan in the inner city would be awesome. by a lot but it's not him he did it. yeah it was very widely used in the democratic the democratic coalition is held together by sort of this marriage of power in materialism so the people who crave power give money to the people who want the money of the people who like money of the agree to give power and so it's that's that is sort of that's a rather pejorative way it is saying it is pejorative but that happens to have saying that the democratic party is held together by a coalition of people who believe that governance our governance has a purpose and part of that will result in making sure that there's a social safety net that people don't get to people fall through the cracks and destroy themselves if if god forbid they get sick or they get or they're unemployed if you see a race to the bottom i'll say bingo. it's like it's a you always you assume it's like the the fact is that romney was what our romney was talking about economics and he was talking about almost greed buttons i
ryan well paul ryan in the inner city would be awesome. by a lot but it's not him he did it. yeah it was very widely used in the democratic the democratic coalition is held together by sort of this marriage of power in materialism so the people who crave power give money to the people who want the money of the people who like money of the agree to give power and so it's that's that is sort of that's a rather pejorative way it is saying it is pejorative but that happens to have saying that the...
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i think paul ryan is a remarkable leader. he was a terrific pick and did a great job but as the country continues to change, i think you're going to see the next generation of leaders on the republican side emerge. >> the key battle now for barack obama in his second term will be how does he get some kind of bipartisan momentum going, particularly on the economy and this is your wheelhouse right now. you've got some pretty firm ideas about how to prevent the fiscal cliff becoming a reality. tell me about that. >> well, we need to avoid the fiscal cliff. as the nonpartisan congressional budget office said, it will reduce gdp by almost 3% and keep in mind it's only 2% now so that means going negative, going back to recession. they predicted that unemployment would go back over 9% which would be terrible, obviously, and many other negative consequences. so they should do at least a temporary extension so they can buy themselves a little time for the new congress to get organized and new administration to get settled, and then ge
i think paul ryan is a remarkable leader. he was a terrific pick and did a great job but as the country continues to change, i think you're going to see the next generation of leaders on the republican side emerge. >> the key battle now for barack obama in his second term will be how does he get some kind of bipartisan momentum going, particularly on the economy and this is your wheelhouse right now. you've got some pretty firm ideas about how to prevent the fiscal cliff becoming a...
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paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro-obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here. >> i'm surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, essentially in urban areas, which definitely gave president obama the big margin. to win this race. >> well, cynthia tucker, visiting professor of journalism at university of georgia and joan walsh, editor-at-large by salon. the l.a. times just posted a report on mitt romney's conference call today with top donors. it says romney, quote, attributed his rival's victory to, quote, the gifts the obama administration had given to blacks, hispanics and young voters during obama's first term. obama, romney argued, had been very generous, quotes around it, to blacks, hispanics and young voters. i once heard a canadian
paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro-obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here. >> i'm surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, essentially in urban areas, which definitely gave...
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returning to capitol hill yesterday for the first time since the election loss, paul ryan pointed to the republicans keeping control of the house as a sign that the country isn't yet sold on the democrats' agenda. >> whether people intended or not we've got divided government. >> you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these idea s we've talked about i think they're popular ideas. this was a close election and unfortunately, divided government didn't work well the last to years. we have to make sure it works the next two years. both parties have to talk to each other. >> reporter: can you see yourself supporting a plan for raising tax rates. >> rhyme not for tax hikes. i do not support raising tax rate, period. i've been saying that my entire career. >> note to house republicans, the p-90 x classes begin again this morning. >>> there is little confidence among the public that the two sides can find a compromise. look at this. only 38% believe the president and house republicans will re
returning to capitol hill yesterday for the first time since the election loss, paul ryan pointed to the republicans keeping control of the house as a sign that the country isn't yet sold on the democrats' agenda. >> whether people intended or not we've got divided government. >> you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these idea s we've talked about i think they're popular...
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the paul ryan budget passed a pretty big test. we had to run around the country and defend it. the ryan budget proved itself a viable platform on which to run and be reelected. wow. just to reiterate, this is what happened on election night. how does this constitute the ryan budget passing a big test. it took a big test but it did not pass that test, two very deficit things. the lesson of this election for republicans appears to be all that stuff we ran on, it totally worked. think about what determines what the republican party does next. what determines how they fix their political problems. the question of who is going to be the new face of the republican party and how they will course correct after this disastrously bad election for them, it all depends how they assess what just went wrong and why it went so wrong. what do they think their problem is that caused the country to reject them so emphatically in 2012. the signs how their self-assessment is going so far are not promising. wednesday, the day after the election, mr. romney had breakfast with some of his richest don
the paul ryan budget passed a pretty big test. we had to run around the country and defend it. the ryan budget proved itself a viable platform on which to run and be reelected. wow. just to reiterate, this is what happened on election night. how does this constitute the ryan budget passing a big test. it took a big test but it did not pass that test, two very deficit things. the lesson of this election for republicans appears to be all that stuff we ran on, it totally worked. think about what...
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there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much. we treat them like royalty. host: gail russell chaddock, why don't you take that one? guest: a lot of the members feel that they have cut back a lot because of criticism and close looking at what the benefits are that members achieve. there have been suggestions from the left and right that if members do not produce a budget and do what they are supposed to do by law, you do not pay them. i think you find that there is growing support for some kind of sanction. it is striking that a party with 9% approval rating should return so many incumbents, but in public education, overa
there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much....
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a week after he and mitt romney lost the election, he and paul ryan went back to work on capitol hill with no hard feelings. still, it came as a surprise. >> we thought we had a really good chance of winning. you know, the polling and data and all the people who watch this stuff, they had a pretty optimistic view on the night. >> well, fellow republican and louisiana governor bobby jindal is lashing out against his own party after last week's showing. jindal says republicans need to, quote, stop being the stupid party." he also called for the end of what he describes as dumbed down conservatism. >>> and lame duck senator scott brown is urging his fellow republicans to widen the base. the moderate from massachusetts warns the group is the middle is vanishing. >>> illinois congressman jesse jackson jr. has been discharged from the mayo clinic being treated for bipolar depression. he remains in minnesota as an outpatient. >>> politico reports moments after this youtube video of ken salazar was taken in colorado last week, salazar allegedly threatened to punch a newspaper reporter. a spok
a week after he and mitt romney lost the election, he and paul ryan went back to work on capitol hill with no hard feelings. still, it came as a surprise. >> we thought we had a really good chance of winning. you know, the polling and data and all the people who watch this stuff, they had a pretty optimistic view on the night. >> well, fellow republican and louisiana governor bobby jindal is lashing out against his own party after last week's showing. jindal says republicans need...
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can you lose paul ryan? i think almost anyone who wants to run for president in '16 is going to vote against this on the republican side. and so the question is, you know, who do you need? and i don't think you absolutely need paul ryan. but in the end, i think he'll vote for what's passed even with tax increases. >> speaking, as long as we're on the house as opposed to the senate, do you hear anything nancy pelosi is going to have a news conference, a press conference, later today? what do you think she's going to do? any word? >> i have no idea. no idea. >> thank you for your honesty. go get me a cup of coffee. >> did you watch this program yesterday? debbie wassermann schultz said she's staying. most of the people i talk to say she's staying. i think her body language yesterday when she was sparring with the press a little bit suggest she's staying. and if we're wrong, i won't be here tomorrow. >> let's go back to congressman ryan and his comments. the interesting thing that president obama did yesterday,
can you lose paul ryan? i think almost anyone who wants to run for president in '16 is going to vote against this on the republican side. and so the question is, you know, who do you need? and i don't think you absolutely need paul ryan. but in the end, i think he'll vote for what's passed even with tax increases. >> speaking, as long as we're on the house as opposed to the senate, do you hear anything nancy pelosi is going to have a news conference, a press conference, later today? what...
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ryan. >>> hours after his re-election win, president obama dove right back into politics that loom over the fiscal cliff debate. he and his family returned to washington where the president called congressional leaders to talk about finding bipartisan solutions to reducing the debt, cut middle class taxes and create jobs. house speaker john boehner said under the right conditions republicans would consider new sources of raising revenue, but only if the president took an inclusive approach. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. we want you to lead, not as a liberal or conservative, but as president of the united states of america. we want you to succeed. let's challenge ourselves to find the common ground that has eluded us. let's rise above the dysfunction and do the right thing together for our country. >> senate majority leader harry reid said he was open to bargaining. >> we can achieve big things if we work together. that's what the american people said last night in a big way. i'm going to do everything wit
ryan. >>> hours after his re-election win, president obama dove right back into politics that loom over the fiscal cliff debate. he and his family returned to washington where the president called congressional leaders to talk about finding bipartisan solutions to reducing the debt, cut middle class taxes and create jobs. house speaker john boehner said under the right conditions republicans would consider new sources of raising revenue, but only if the president took an inclusive...
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. >> reporter: today, paul ryan who was reelected to the house and will have a much bigger voice, released a statement, i am very proud of the campaign we ran, and i remain grateful to the governor to be his running mate. aides cut the audio to the giant broadcast screens, cueing the band to play. and today, one of mr. romney's top surrogates, new jersey governor chris christie spoke for his fellow republican. >> i was extraordinarily disappointed last night, i was surprised that it ended the way it did. but that is the way it goes. >> reporter: another person put it more succinctly, telling nbc news, this one stings. and in the last hour, governor romney left the campaign, there wrapping up a good-bye meeting about his staff, now leaving the headquarters perhaps for the last time. >> peter alexander at the end of the campaign, in a blustery mass, and lester holt is here with more, on how the oba campaign was able to stitch together this victory. >> well, the short answer is, they recognized the demographic shift in this country, brian, you can argue the romney campaign was working from a
. >> reporter: today, paul ryan who was reelected to the house and will have a much bigger voice, released a statement, i am very proud of the campaign we ran, and i remain grateful to the governor to be his running mate. aides cut the audio to the giant broadcast screens, cueing the band to play. and today, one of mr. romney's top surrogates, new jersey governor chris christie spoke for his fellow republican. >> i was extraordinarily disappointed last night, i was surprised that it...
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they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic substitute and if you can get enough republicans to vote for it, terrific. >> if only the americans can see the look of befudslement and confusion when newt gingrich says things like no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea. bamboozled into this idea that the president just won re-election and the senate is still firmly in democratic hands. >> right. what he's basically saying is, to rank and file republicans vote with your district and forget about the phone call that john boehner had with all of you folks saying get in line, we actually have to have a record to run on in 2014. we can't be obstructionists anymore. the american people have spoken in the election, let's do something. newt gingrich, former speaker of the house, failed presidential candidate, giving advice to the republican party, i would advise the republican party to take that with a huge salt lick. >> yea
they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic substitute and if you can get enough republicans to vote for it, terrific. >> if only the americans can see the look of befudslement and confusion when newt gingrich says things like no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea. bamboozled into this idea that the president just...
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and when you see that there are people like paul ryan. i know the -- should but will they? >> there is a sentiment among the people that they want this fixed. there could be at least the first couple of months. >> hopefully he can set for the entire benefit of the country. if you would like the entire benefit of the country. if you would like to conn[ female announcer ] welcome one and all to a tastier festive feast. so much to sip and savor, a feeding frenzy to say the least. a turkey from safeway will have everyone raving. there's fresh, natural, frozen, whatever you're craving. spend 25 and get a frozen safeway turkey for 59 cents a pound. or get another of the best deals around. a frozen butterball, 99 cents a pound. so raise your glass, pull up a chair...grab a plate. this tastier thanksgiving is well worth the wait. safeway. ingredients for life. this tastier thanksgiving is well worth the wait. >>this just in to the kron 4 news room major commute issues were passengers on caltrain. they are currently stopped in both directions and definitely. this is after a train cr
and when you see that there are people like paul ryan. i know the -- should but will they? >> there is a sentiment among the people that they want this fixed. there could be at least the first couple of months. >> hopefully he can set for the entire benefit of the country. if you would like the entire benefit of the country. if you would like to conn[ female announcer ] welcome one and all to a tastier festive feast. so much to sip and savor, a feeding frenzy to say the least. a...
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it will be a paul ryan budget deal. elections have consequences. >> you heard him say no the country voted for divided they gave house republicans a mandate. as a moderate democrat yourself what do you think is the key to how obama finds a way to work with the gop and not just senator two more years of gridlock. >> i have been as pessimistic about gridlock in washington. like bill i am some what modestly on the miss thieshg. the president has more flexibility to stand up to his base on entitlement reform. the republicans remember when mitch mcconnell said make sure he is a one-term president. the president will be thinking about his legacy wanting to get things done. they lost voters by 56 percent. all that suggests to me is the president says something teaching the fiscal cliff i am willing to have 3-1 spending reductions as well as tax increases and pro growth tax reform package you can get something done there. >> president's second term notoriously difficult and the fact is the president won real election he didn't
it will be a paul ryan budget deal. elections have consequences. >> you heard him say no the country voted for divided they gave house republicans a mandate. as a moderate democrat yourself what do you think is the key to how obama finds a way to work with the gop and not just senator two more years of gridlock. >> i have been as pessimistic about gridlock in washington. like bill i am some what modestly on the miss thieshg. the president has more flexibility to stand up to his base...
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paul ryan, who called rape just another method of conception, paul ryan did win back his house seat, but he lost the vice presidency in rather spectacular fashion. and tom smith, who thinks getting pregnant out of wedlock is totally similar to getting pregnant by being raped, just put yourself in the father's position, he lost his u.s. senate bid to incumbent democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania. republicans who were forced to campaign on their anti-abortion politics, by and large, did not fare well this year. but by all means, republicans, follow the anti-abortion movement's advice and campaign harder on your abortion politics next time. really. really, go for that one third of the electorate that thinks they agree with you on this issue before they've heard you really explain it. maybe you can petition to change the rules of mathematics so that 36% will add up to a majority. regardless, definitely talk more about rape, you guys. keep it up. >>> hey, to all of you who waited in long, long, long lines to cast your vote in this election, your democracy thanks you, yay! how abo
paul ryan, who called rape just another method of conception, paul ryan did win back his house seat, but he lost the vice presidency in rather spectacular fashion. and tom smith, who thinks getting pregnant out of wedlock is totally similar to getting pregnant by being raped, just put yourself in the father's position, he lost his u.s. senate bid to incumbent democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania. republicans who were forced to campaign on their anti-abortion politics, by and large, did...
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i think they needed paul ryan on board. romney liked paul ryan but the campaign -- the only campaign that gave them a chance to win was blaming obama for everything that happened and being as vague as possible about the alternative, right. saying the economy is bad people are arguing in washington, we'll make it better. they didn't have any support for their specific alternatives. they didn't want to make it a contest or specific vision so they needed ryan on board in a way. but they didn't want people examining their alternative. >> john: i think you're right. what do you think is next for the g.o.p. and what do you think we can expect in the weeks to come with the fiscal cliff struggle? >> this is also something i've written about quite a bit. i don't expect a lot of cooperation between the parties in the second term except immigration reform. on the fiscal issue it is different. the republicans just have to make a deal with obama because the absent of the deal, they get way, way worse than nothing. they opposed almost ev
i think they needed paul ryan on board. romney liked paul ryan but the campaign -- the only campaign that gave them a chance to win was blaming obama for everything that happened and being as vague as possible about the alternative, right. saying the economy is bad people are arguing in washington, we'll make it better. they didn't have any support for their specific alternatives. they didn't want to make it a contest or specific vision so they needed ryan on board in a way. but they didn't...
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there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much. we treat them like royalty. host: gail russell chaddock, why don't you take that one? guest: a lot of the members feel that they have cut back a lot because of criticism and close looking at what the benefits are that members achieve. there have been suggestions from the left and right that if members do not produce a budget and do what they are supposed to do by law, you do not pay them. i think you find that there is growing support for some kind of sanction. it is striking that a party with 9% approval rating should return so many incumbents, but in public education, overa
there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much....
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. >> paul ryan lost his hometown. >> he lost his hometown -- >> which is not a particularly urban place. >> they voted against him twice. >> losing never feels good. >> president obama will hold his first press conference -- >> to discuss the looming fiscal cliff. >> will the fiscal cliff be the number one conversation piece? >> there's only so much we can say about this fiscal cliff/slope. >> i argued for a balanced approach. the majority of the voters agreed with me. >> i think they're popular ideas. >> i think the majority of voters agreed with me. >> clearly president obama won. >> losing never feels good. >> no more mr. nice guy. >> the president responds to questions about susan rice -- >> about the benghazi attacks. >> senator mccain and senator graham want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> former cia director david petraeus will testify before the senate intelligence committee. >> general petraeus had an affair with his biographer. people are snapping up copies of the book. >> it's so pathetic. >> the book is available in hard cover and extremely hard cover. >>>
. >> paul ryan lost his hometown. >> he lost his hometown -- >> which is not a particularly urban place. >> they voted against him twice. >> losing never feels good. >> president obama will hold his first press conference -- >> to discuss the looming fiscal cliff. >> will the fiscal cliff be the number one conversation piece? >> there's only so much we can say about this fiscal cliff/slope. >> i argued for a balanced approach. the...
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. >> join me in recognizing the next president of the united states paul ryan! so we said we can't have any illegals working on our property. i'm running for office for christ's sake. they brought us whole binders full of women. i love cars. i love american cars. i like seeing the lakes. i love the lakes. syria is iran's only ally in the arab world. it's their route to the sea. >> ann romney: stop it. this is hard. you want to try it? get in the ring. this is hard. >> what would you say to president ands be obama. >> romney: start packing. [ laughter ] >> romney: there were a couple of times i was worried i was going to get a pink slip. i stand by what i said whatever it was. no one has asked to see my birth certificate. that's exactly what i said. romney, ryan romney ryan there we go. that's great. thank you. >> scarborough: oh, sweet jesus! >> i'm sorry. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: that's micah consoling -- >> i didn't see that part of it. >> oh sweet jesus! >> scarborough: oh, sweet jesus! >> did i mention he got florida. >> stephanie: the president won florid
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some have mentioned paul ryan as well. you have marco rubio heading to iowa next week. you also have the gop governors meeting in vegas next week. new jersey's chris christie expected to be there. who would you say is the current front-runner for the 2016 republican nomination? >> on the republican side, i think it's very convoluted. you know, it might be a jeb bush if he decides to assert himself and get into this. i think it's a far clear picture on the democratic side of the aisle. and i would say it's secretary clinton. and i would point out that president clinton sure did collect a lot of ious in the final couple of weeks of that campaign. >> that's a good point. you mentioned hillary clinton. a lot of folks have indicated that america's happy warrior, joe biden as well, he could be in this thing. andrew cuomo, that name pops up on a lot of lists. >> it does. and i don't think that there is really a clear definition on either side of the aisle. but one thing is self-evident after what happened on tuesday, and that is that the gop needs to focus on its nomination pr
some have mentioned paul ryan as well. you have marco rubio heading to iowa next week. you also have the gop governors meeting in vegas next week. new jersey's chris christie expected to be there. who would you say is the current front-runner for the 2016 republican nomination? >> on the republican side, i think it's very convoluted. you know, it might be a jeb bush if he decides to assert himself and get into this. i think it's a far clear picture on the democratic side of the aisle. and...
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governor romney and paul ryan lost his home state in wisconsin. they didn't do well there. he, to me it is a very open question as to what his role will be. it will be obviously have the opportunity to create a role and to define himself better but he sure going to have to be more than a one-trick pony. he has to learn to say something besides budget. it is really important that he go beyond that in his, in his political persona. the, you know the republicans have got lots of smart folks but man those smart folks have to start thinking and they have got to start working. we have a lot of lazy republicans it looks to me like. and i'm talking about leading the party, and it in its various factions. we have lazy republicans when it comes to turning out to vote. that was the big deal. melissa: go vote. lou dobbs, thank you so much. see lou every day here at this time. >> isn't that exciting? melissa: 7:00 and 10:00 eastern tonight. catch former special counsel to bill clinton lanny davis. >> elections have consequence is. i'm talking to one of the leading democrats in the count
governor romney and paul ryan lost his home state in wisconsin. they didn't do well there. he, to me it is a very open question as to what his role will be. it will be obviously have the opportunity to create a role and to define himself better but he sure going to have to be more than a one-trick pony. he has to learn to say something besides budget. it is really important that he go beyond that in his, in his political persona. the, you know the republicans have got lots of smart folks but...